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All true, but I doubt the Pixel 2 has enough distortion to be noticeable in a digitally zoomed portrait. S8 dont have 60fps n why u need 60fps! The Nexus 6P was my best phone ever when it came to photos. If that is indeed true than yes, then again if Samsung is sending over their phones then dxomark is the problem.

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23.03.2018 - Samsung laymanized it with Live Focus. I notice barrel distortion on faces with wide angle phone cameras very and I root for optical zoom or even interchangeable lenses on smartphones. Full size unedited photos: I like that he encourages people to dive in past the overall number and look at the sub-scores to see which ones are most relevant to them. The iPhone may not have a card reader but it too can offload footage when the device is full. For good video quality, which is fluid and not choppy U need at least 30 fps, and Pixel has it. They work hard to do these tests.

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16.03.2018 - Still waiting for a phone that beats my Huawei P9 Plus in texture, noise and artifacts 85, 83, That is how i support our very own local brands. My phone camera does a great job, nice and sharp when spread out on the huge screen. Only the things that matter most are discussed here. What are those bugs?

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31.01.2018 - What do you think they take test images for? Not sure if it is the same project or different, but seems to be a backport of the Pixel XL camera app to more generic devices. Now if you try the same thing, but put your subject in the corner of the wide angle frame, you might see some effects of barrel distortion. Okay, U are right. Get your hands on a LG V30 then talk!

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19.02.2018 - Ur not helping prospective buyers. DXO should get back to their roots. DXOMark knows all this stuff and is choosing to ignore it so that it can bait for clicks with an incompetent populist viewpoint on an enthusiast site. Thank you for the suggestion. It is subjective in some cases.

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For the record, I come to this having developed digital imaging software for 20 years. The Pixel 2 is superb, showing minimal image processing artifacts. Details are fine and natural. Now compare the iPhone 8 image.

The test chart becomes blurry at finer spacings and the contrast has been blown out unnaturally around the edges. Same for the Note 8. It is clear that those phones are applying a noise reduction process to their image, then trying to sharpen it to enhance edges, which is why the contrast is higher but the resolution is lower.

Google has taken a more conservative, and accurate, approach to dealing with the image. We may be discussing different things. The iPhone 8 Plus has the same 12 MP resolution and f1. They should be capturing images of roughly equivalent resolution.

As noted, if you compare the pixel-level details, Apple is applying far too much sharpening to the images. Anybody who has done image processing will have encountered this problem which actually leads to reduced resolution and artifacts.

Sensor resolution is same, but optics quality is different. Probably Apple and Samsung using cheaper lens. When iPhone got 94 — Dxomark is legit, the best and most professional test When Pixel 2 got 98 — Google paid you, dxomark is shit, blah blah blah..

Haters and fanboys always find a way to cry…. Of course, but to some people apple fanboys are the only fanboys that exist. I saw that people criticized DxOMark last year when the Pixel was the top rated phone, and also when the iPhone 8 Plus was the top rated phone.

It happened in both instances. A lot of it is personal preference as well. The iPhone 8 and 8 Plus can shoot 4K video at 60 frames per second. The Google Pixel 2 is limited to 30 frames per second in 4K.

The iPhone 8 and 8 Plus can shoot P video at frames per second whereas the Pixel 2 is limited to frames per second. Pixel can do either, and I do not see why Google would change that for Pixel 2.

Yeah this is a pretty crucial feature. And the iPhone x will have 60 FPS from the get-go. The problem is storage. So you have to record to internal storage and offload.

The US model of the Note 8 at least only comes in a 64gb model and 4k at 60fps even with h. You also cannot record directly to Google photos either so you still have to have a large amount of local storage.

You also can use Google photos free lower quality storage for free on iOS. So Google photos as an offering in this case is sort of a moot point. Especially when people who do not have a pixel and have android devices can save to a Youtube account archive and be none the wiser.

The iPhone may not have a card reader but it too can offload footage when the device is full. All existing media you take in those 3 years stays free. And three years is as long as people keep a phone really even less nowadays so it works out fine.

Most slow motion, the cinematic type consumers are used to seeing in films is shot at fps then conformed to 24 fps. Anything above this creates a very slow, slow motion that would bore most audiences to watch.

The truth is as this point we are splitting hairs when it comes to image quality between the manufactures. Why is that a disadvantage? When would you EVER need 4k at 60fps?

You can prioritize the sharper frames in the final encode after editing when dropping the frame rate to get a better looking overall video. There is a long list of things you can do with the added frame rate.

Was this written before testing the Note 8? I have the note 8…great camera. I had the pixel and the note 7 last year and same was said. I just want to say that using the camera the pixel was just so much more consistent.

Could I get better photos from Galaxy at times…yes. That was just my feel last year. That may be true…but the images from the original Pixel also wipe the floor with the Pixel 2. There is more detail in what I see.

Colors can easily be tweaked. I mean even look at the comparison with the iphone with the girl looking over the edge…. What is with all the artifacts in the images? Why does it prioritize dynamic range over the actual subject of the shot?

How much google paid u? Less noise on the iPhone cuz they applied more denoiser which will affect image quality. The pixel 2 has slightly more noise but a lot more details.

Girl is not out of focus what are you talking about? Also notice the much better dynamic range on the pixel whereas the lights on the iPhone and note 8 will be blown out. I think Iphone have less noise because iphone software denoise photo much more than Pixel.

Look that window line in Iphone isnt straight because of denoising. It dosent made Iphone photo better, but it is making it more unatural it is important what U want to achive.

I think when u will postproduct image from Pixel, U will get way better results than Iphone. About second photo, background is way better then Iphone. There arent any details….

One more thing… do U care about 60fps on 4K? U are filmaking some serious things? I undestand what gives 60 fps: I think comparing those things is like — 20 mpx is better than 12 mpx because U have bigger image and then saying that i cant use it to print hilarious big image… It always depends what do U need.

Okay, U are right. For good video quality, which is fluid and not choppy U need at least 30 fps, and Pixel has it. Which is smaller and more efficient file format, they have been doing FaceTime in H.

How can you do the comparison with different lighting condition? They should at least do same image with same conditions on all their reviews in order to compare… every review they did have different scene, which only makes them a big joke.

Nothing in the criteria scores of the Pixel 2 indicates a Where did that 99 final tally come from? As far as I can comparing individual images…How are these points weighted? That would be my guess.

People are going totally overboard with regards to the timing of the review. And remember the iPhone 8 went up immediately after the change in testing protocols so that looked funny too right?

Sorry fanboys, have some dignity and deal with it. Yup and they were idiots too. They work hard to do these tests. Real results tell the real story. This is a reference point.

And real results on here easily show the pixel 2 won. We will see more reviews on YouTube shortly. The results on here look like garbage. The original pixel looks better than the pixel 2 images.

If you look at them up close there is weird blotches of areas that are super sharp and others that are blurry as hell with weird square artifacts. Still a valid question btw.

I would say very smart move from dxomark! Great marketing but bad for trust and objectivity. Really lost a lot of trust from me and many others. Fortunately there are some other phone camera reviewers out there really stepping it up like supersaf and phonearena.

He admitted two cameras do very natural looking photos and yet he chose Note 8 photo with huge yellow hue over the photo which looks horrible to have highest score. I can be serious, they include multiple side by side pictures with crops for you to use your own eyes and come to your own opinion.

The Note 8 objectively captures more detail in low light in all of those photos, period. Seriously you should step back and evaluate your bias. Have you looked at the wide array of comparisons on the web?

The iPhone has an exaggerated color bias, often making blue skies unrealistically blue. Butt hurt is on iTARD fans like you. Are you serious, all Those Note 8 photos has huge yellow hue over the photo.

Very bad looking photos. Not to mention much better night shots which puts it into a different league altogether. Big yellow hue over photo, just like what shows in low light photos shows also in those daylight photos.

As a photographer and graphic designer with trained eye it looks very bad. Yes reality is dull, thats why you edit the photos later to direction where you want.

Photos taking with DSLR also look dull because they look real and natural. I said this already, Note 8 does lot of post processing to trying to make photos look better than they really are, sometimes it works and sometimes not.

All those other three phones offered lot better natural overall look for photos. There is no yellow hue from any of those shots. Not sure what you are referring to.

Not like the default camera app of the iphone one shutter button only. Why do you care so much? The Note and the iPhone both have pretty good cameras. Beating eat other rout in different categories.

Btw, I own both iPhone and Note 8. In a good position to speak on both platforms. Not to mention, has a better default camera app with optional expert manual mode. Figure that one out.

Aside from some having butt issues, I think everyone should look at the photos and decide which they like best. If choosing a phone for the camera then they can make an educated purchase.

Who really cares what the reviewer says as long as they show the photos? The Note 8 and iPhone 8 Plus were very close. Note 8 edge out in front a bit because of OIS in the second camera.

The Pixel 2 produces a decent thumbnail image but how can anyone look at these images up close and even some of the thumbnails and think it is a decent camera? The first Pixel did a better job than the Pixel 2.

I think as long as they show the pictures readers can decide for themselves which they like. It is subjective in some cases. So lets see, hmmmm….. Apple kills it on portraits, Google on everything else.

I wish I could buy an iPhone with the strengths of both the iPhone camera and the Pixel 2 camera! Yeah the pixel AI on the portrait mode is incredible, Apple portrait mode is already quite good but with pixel AI it will be even closer to a real camera.

Not hurt but expected. Shows you how much you know about the Pixel. No but their Mate 10 is coming out in a week. Skin tones are much better with iPhone. I know which one I would choose!

I agree, but I also noticed the pretty women seemed to smile more in the iphone images. Not that it matters, just pointing that out. I first thought that too. I give the overall bokeh effect award to the iphone for sure, but the color seems off from natural.

I prefer to have an image closest to reality, then I can play with filters after if I wish. I also opened both photos woman sitting in restaurant and enlarged, and noticed there is substantial loss of detail in the iphone picture!

Same for her eyebrows, very smeared in the iphone shot. Her hair too, much more detail in Pixels shot. The exposure is on the model, and the skintones also look more natural.

But DxO only counted that the highlights on the background are better preserved in the Pixel Image. In reality the people want to have a good looking image from the perople they photograph.

I think every photo gallery now has filters even Microsoft galleries lol. And for that, more detail is better. I also would disagree that her skintone is more natural on Apple pic, I think the opposite in fact.

Apple is just doing it automatically for you, but forcing one particular filter that they deemed best, you have no choice in the matter, and lose facial details in the process.

I totally agree with you, iPhoneography is another world for android things, when compare against iPhone samples, it kinds of invites humiliation. Thank you for your suggestion. We try and test as many phones as possible with our new protocol.

There are many to come, so please holding on! Thank you for your understanding and patience. To match what Samsung and Apple is doing. Mate 10 will do it, so will the x. At this level all the phone camera photos look great.

It is a shame that the same mistakes were repeated for Miracast, since it on a theoretical plan should have been mirror phone screen to TV, but man did they fuck it up. When you come to a review about a product review to discuss another product, you are a fan.

When you are fan, a true fan, you become biased. The pictures look great. What am I intended to get out of that? His entire premise is wrong in that DXO is trying to make it look scientific.

I see no different between those reviews and this. I still feel my Lumia XL is better than most phones, after having compared the photos on a computer with Galaxy S7, Pixel, etc. Pixel beats it in low light, but with 20 megapixel, day time photos in it is simply more usable.

The Lumia camera module coupled with a modern SOC would be amazing. Especially since I imagine they can shrink it down even further nowadays. No more excessive lag for the processor to capture and store the image.

Still very curious how that camera performed in real world situations. Up to this day i still see reviews popping up with vs modern flagship camera phones. Soon they will give and for pixle xl 3 phones next year out of If these are not paid reviews why dont you rate LG V30 phone which was released long back and available in market?

LG V30 is having best 1. LG V30 has the biggest aperture, thats good, but for phone camera, I think the software is more important.. Just read the review and look a the comments.

Xenon flash rated worse than even poor led setups, photos done in 5MPx mode and zoomed instead of using native resolution or even 8Mpx oversampling. I get it, is old outdated phone missing many features, video quality is behind modern cameraphones but its photo score is so biased that it even looks funny.

OK, I am clearly uneducated here, but how do you get to a score of 99 on photo, when no single subscore is higher than 98? A few are below That is some higher level math, I guess.

It seems some of the sub-scores are weighted somehow. I recommend this dude: I closely examined these sample shots and compared them to the iPhone 8 Plus ones. I think I can agree that in low light situations, of static scenes, the Pixel 2 does seem to be able to do a better job.

Well you see the zoom score also better in iPhone 8 plus But for me the color is more accurate in Pixel 2 XL tbh. You have to see the object yourself in real life before you can say anything about color accuracy: So you want to say that the model really looks like a Zombie in real life?

Because in the Pixel Images she looks like one. I am just glad in this age of smartphones, all are equally good at photos and videos. Still waiting for a phone that beats my Huawei P9 Plus in texture, noise and artifacts 85, 83, Those are the areas I care for the most.

The bokeh effect always tend to blur and leave a wrong sharp area I guess. Compared to other dual camera handphones. All these scores are meaningless. What this page is doing is essentially trying to quantify mobile camera performance via qualitative tests.

No scientific measurement at all except the video test. Each reviews are using different tests and samples. How is that fair? Here is how the tests are done: If you stand the same distance from your subject and digitally zoom so they fill the frame as if you used a telephoto, they will look the same perspective wise.

When most people talk about wide angle distortion, they are referring to perspective. Wide angles encourage photographers to get too close to the subject for portraits. Digitally zooming, or cropping in post, allows you to shoot from a more flattering distance.

Of course the resolution will suffer if you digitally zoom or crop, but the perspective will be fine. Straight vertical lines would form a shape of a barrel, hence the name. Conversely, telephoto lenses may suffer from pincushion distortion Barrel distortion can be corrected with software by warping the image inwards toward the center at the expense of cropping the corners.

Barrel distortion has little effect on a person in the middle of the frame even when there is no software correction. None of that would come into play when shooting a portrait with a wide angle from 5 or 10 feet and then cropping.

Try this with a zoom lens: Use a tripod from a fixed distance of say 6 feet. You need to make sure the camera is fixed to avoid tilting it more on one shot than the other. Take a telephoto shot and then a wide angle.

Crop the wide angle on your computer so the field of view matches the telephoto. Aside from it being lower resolution, there will no difference between the two shots. I believe the reviewer was speaking of the way people think wide angles exaggerate facial features.

Now if you try the same thing, but put your subject in the corner of the wide angle frame, you might see some effects of barrel distortion. DXo seems to find these distortions significant enough to be worth mentioning.

They will be more pronounced the closer or more off-center is the subject. You should do the test you mentioned on Pixel 2 when you get it. I notice barrel distortion on faces with wide angle phone cameras very and I root for optical zoom or even interchangeable lenses on smartphones.

I just felt that particular statement in the review was not put in a entirely accurate way. Probably worth reading this tutorial on volume deformation, which explains quite a bit: You also get somewhat better subject isolation with the latter even without a specialized mode.

Those are two of the reasons that slightly longer lenses are favored by portrait photographers using standalone cameras. Pixel 2 is clearly the best rated camera yet. They specifically mentioned it in the review.

Otherwise, I like your sacarsm. I really was hoping for something remarkable from the Pixel 2, however, the Apple and Samsung photos are more pleasing in many ways. I appreciate this site overall, but this review is not close to useful.

The score, no matter how justified, is misleading. The Pixel images here are not impressive. When you use weighted scoring techniques for e. Look at that tree picture. But, DXO says that the P2 has amazing detail preservation in light and dark shadows?

Good luck finding any detail to bring out from that tree and trying to get rid of those intense blacks inside of it. I am happy that my Pixel phone camera is still a great camera.

That is quite impressive. But damnit, That first picture of the tree is hideous. It just seems way off on too many important things. But to their credit, they do bring up good points about other things.

I had the exact same impression on that photo htc 11 vs pixel 2 and i agree with you that the score seems to be a bit too high. They saying the pixel has less noise than the last pixel but in my opinion it looks that it as or the same or even more.

I agree that the HTC photo there does look better than the pixel 2, not sure whats up there. Seems like the contrast was up to much on that scene. The pixel 2 though does have more detail than pretty much all the Iphone 8 photos in this review.

As a photographer myself, Its easier to take a high detail photo, and convert it to what apple has as default in post processing if thats what you want, than it is to go the other way around. Apple chooses to have softer more pleasing images at the expense of the detail.

The real world pixel photos, have cool white balance and nasty bokeh. David had a shit body. Shorter legs and less reach. Athleticism was on average with other men. Only difference was his brain. Transplant his brain and Goliath would definitely have beaten this crap guy in a fight.

And what you really are saying is that Samsung and LG sucks at software. If this is not the best sensor at this moment except for software, which do you consider the best sensor available at this moment?

The test results are very intransparent for people who just want to have a quick look about the camera test. You will se a 99 overall rating and think that the camera ist just perfect.

But if you read the full test you will see that the iPhone 8 Plus is much better in some categories. For me the rating is not intersubjectively understandable. DxO lost all credibility, and any article I see with them mentioned has fortunately only people aware of that.

Legit question — why have they lost credibility? I see a lot of hate for DXO, but have no idea where it comes from. DxO advertise themselves as being a consumer scoring company, which means they have a legal responsibility in being as informative and neutral as possible in the way they grade cameras, which used to be more or less the case.

I would like to see more systematic real-life test shots. Perhaps include a chart of some sort behind the person being photographed, for the shots to be more apples-to-apples.

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But we solved that. Dear Athar, thank you for your suggestion. All the shots are yellow. But i prefer android over ios…. S8 dont have 60fps n why u need 60fps! Take a look at LGV By far the best smartphone on the planet for video.

At 60fps its super wide angle where stabilization is less needed. And who makes the Pixel 2. LGV30 is the better phone. I have FHD 60fps as an option for my video size. Would send you a screen print but check yours.

Even standard HD 60fps video is just starting to look decent on high-end devices. We try and test as many phones as possible with our new protocol, please stay tuned! Colors, bokeh, noise, lens almost everything looks better in the iphone photos, so the final score is surprising!

The pixel 2 seems overrated to me, it has a lot of flaws the pictures are over processed, colors are better on the iphone, noise is visible in dark conditions, lens is bad for portraits, effects that do not work, I think it is overrated in this review and does not deserve the high 98 score.

Did you see the same photos as I did? Please take a look at the portrait photos indoor, indoor low light and outdoor, the difference is clear, iphone wins by a long shot look at the low light portrait, look at it also in full size to see the difference in noise.

When it comes to the lab photos however, you are right, the pixel 2 wins. This makes me question this whole review and the score as well. The noise performance and color reproduction by the iphone 8 in the portraits look much better, where the lab tests show a different story.

The apple photos seem warmer and more natural, which is probably why they look better to you. But the Pixel camera photos have far more detail, more dynamic range although at times can appear too contrasty for me and actually more accurate colors.

Devices with a secondary tele-camera, such as the Galaxy Note 8 or iPhone 8 Plus, are better in this respect. The distortion in the cropped center of a wide angle frame should be similar to a telephoto frame.

I think this is partially true. The parallax effect of a wide angle lens when you get really close to the subject and the nose looks big is NOT going to appear with digital zoom.

Some wide angles fish eyes most obviously — but many extreme wide angle lenses distort lines so they appear curved. That just has to happen — like the distortions in map projections that make Greenland look huge.

Either you get curves or you get scale distortions. All true, but I doubt the Pixel 2 has enough distortion to be noticeable in a digitally zoomed portrait. I agree that this statement in the review is vague and misleading.

What kind of wide-angle distortions is the reviewer referring to, and why not show an example? Is this an iPhone 8 ad? These comparisons and these numbers resonate the growing trend of a more educated market vs novice pixel-peepers.

Maybe you should get some glasses instead. The model in the Pixel 2 Images almost always looks like a Zombie, the tonal balance is off, the background blur bokeh looks like crap. The comparisons above are not consistent and quality is dependent on what you are looking for.

The sometimes use the Note 8 camera but I have the S8 and the camera is far superior than the attempts above. I can make up for lack of light with longer exposure, but no skill can improve ISO performance.

They can certainly factor in the fixed-lens aspect as well, but they already have a methodology for that. This review is more frustrating than anything. Its all left on auto and these are the results.

That is my assumption. This is fake dude: This is not proof at all: From where some extremely unknown guy has pixel 2? There are many fast moving objects — the lights, the performer, etc.

They are even from the very exact point of view: For years Android fans kept complaining about them when they where giving iPhone cameras high marks, now i guess the tables have turned. I will not be putting my fate in some random Youtube guy if i where you.

Oh and Samsung hired a lot of Nokia guys when Nokia was sold to Microsoft. They basically have an office across the street in Finland and ever since then they have been doing well on cameras.

Google Set up a whole unit dedicated to camera and that is how both caught up to apple. Please retest the One Plus 5 , and how the photo and video scores are calculated from the sub scores when there is not a single score above 98 so how these scores are calculated 99 and 96 respectively.

Can you please elaborate the procedure. Every honest person can see that the dollar bill and euro are much sharper than the pixel 2. Just look at the details. Please just be honest with yourselves and put your Apple hate aside.

Drowned in Apple-Hate much? It seems it needs to be clarified since such comments are solving the actual issue here and are very productive. In fact, I have never owned any version of any iPhone.

I have never had a use for one. I still use an old Samsung phone that is turned off, except for an emergency. For pictures my canon s95 and Sony a are what I use. However, lately, I have been thinking of joining the new generation; so I have been reading articles such as this.

And, I have to admit, looking at the images in this article with my totally inexperience, unbiased eye, this guy Jedro is absolutely correct. Look at the converging lines in the resolution test strip sitting on top of Lincoln in that close up.

There are other things besides pure resolution that make one image appear sharper than the other — like preservation of contrast and color fidelity. But just for resolving detail at this low light level?

Or have a look at YouTube comparisons between Note 8 and iPhone. No one talked here about resolution. You can have the best DSLR with a rubbish lens and yet you won't have the sharpest and detailed picture.

Apple chose to boost the contrast and clean up more noise in their image processing. That cost them some fine detail, but increased the apparent sharpness.

Google not surprisingly made the geekier choice. Pixel 2 easily best phone camera of all time. Powerful Android 8 operating system. OS updates from Google. Considerably cheaper than the iPhone X.

Looks like we have a new phone champion here. Lol ok buddy calm down.. Get your hands on a LG V30 then talk! The Bokeh example in this article is a nightmare. Bokeh is not just some random blur areas.

It has some logic. I know this is not most important thing in the world, but they put stress on what great dual-pixel abilities their single camera has, and dxomark has seperate score just for this.

In theory, it gives the Pixel2 depth info for every single pixel on the sensor. On the web there are demos of producing 3d models from dual pixel sensor data. And, no one has had a chance to try this yet, but it probably tracks focus better than any other camera for video with a moving subject.

Dual pixel sensors have been in HTC and Samsung phones for a couple of years now. Also, I think all of these cameras are using Sony sensors. Google chose to leave more detail in the image at the cost of a more grainy appearance.

Look at the hair, for example, in the Note 8 shot. Just a big black area. A manufacturer would just jack up the noise reduction to get a better rating and throw away perfectly good pixels!

In my opinion Some photo examples of Pixel 2 looks unnatural. Like second and third image. Was the test conducted on both the Pixel 2 and the Pixel 2 XL? It should be the same specs all around.

The Pixel 2 does appear to maintain a bit better detail, likely due to less post-processing. It seems Apple have adopted the Samsung approach of sharpening images and such.

Meanwhile the Note 8 is now softer with less sharpening. Dxo mobile camera test is always a joke! I have the Note 8 and I am honestly very disappointed in the camera because although the photos look nice when zoomed out, once you zoom in, you can see how it loses detail compared to even my Huawei Nexus 6p, a phone that is 2 years older and was meant as a cheap temporary phone to hold me over from the Note 7 fiasco to the Note 8.

The Nexus 6p captures sharper detail than the Note 8. The Note 8 only looks nice when zoomed out because of the saturated colors and oversharpening. HDR is on by default.

The Nexus 6P was my best phone ever when it came to photos. Funny enough, I am waiting for my Note 8 which I got primarily because of the photo mark scores so it sucks to hear that your real world scores are underwhelming.

I need a headphone jack so the iPhone and Pixel XL are automatically out. All my previous Galaxy flagships were plagued with stuttering and severe bugs. I guess Samsung finally got their QC upto par with the Note 8.

The camera is better than the stock Nexus 6P camera. The Nexus 6P with the modded NX Camera app is still not necessarily better than the Note 8 but just captures more detail than the Note 8 camera which is obvious when you zoom in on the image.

Thanks for the response! I tried it in the store against the iPhone 8 and it was fantastic screen. Like you I am looking to use it for productivity enhancement for a few years.

On paper, OIS is a good thing, so if it can take good pictures, I will be happy. How much did Apple pay DxO. Pixel 2 rated Its DxO and they test in the most professional way. But not even a mention about it..

Nice cherry picking of comments there. It would be disappointing to find out if it scores at or better than the Pixel 2 because it would seem as though DXOmark would be working with Google on building it up.

Otherwise, probably range…. It seems that a triggered fanboi is in full libel mode. Clearly there is Samsung-esque sharpening now taking place. To the point it looks like S7 photos only less oversaturated….

This getting out of hand. DXO should get back to their roots. Most flagship smartphones can shoot in RAW. Please start doing your reviews by using RAW. All these noise versus detail including WB is affected by the camera software.

EVEN let people infer it. This is all really getting into wine snob type of behavior.. I just want to hear about 4K 30fps — is okay to record at all the time? Should I just record at p 60fps? Only use 4K 30 fps if you have a screen that can display it, eg.

The drawback is that it is only recording at 30 fps so scenes with lots of motion will have motion blur and may look worse than the 60 fps one. However, this is just my opinion and other people might say differently.

But 60fps is so pleasing to eyes. Our test scores go from 0 to infinity. I am forced to strongly disagree with the extremely over-rated numbers on the Pixel 2. While it does do some things better than other phones, its drawbacks give the other phones the advantage in many common photo scenarios; even the reviewer acknowledged this.

I think to a lot of people, absolute picture quality is most important. What is important, is to look at the axis, dynamic range, noise and accuracy in seperate plots over light range and gain.

The other thing is pixel format, bit depth and accuracy at different datarates. At the moment a lot is rubbish, but to compete these things have to increase. These things will quickly show you things before you worry about bells and whistles that help you shoot.

To get better accuracy, and to see around features more, needs more than a single little lens, it needs IMAX larger medium format spacing, and more than two lens. Bokeh is shaped from many axises.

How are you even rating these pics.. The HTC U11 pic has better detail and colour balance than the Pixel 2 in the comparison you posted above. The Pixel 2 image is way too dark and contrasty, though it captures more details in the dark parts of the scene.

And actually, in most of the pics from the iPhone8-Pixel2 comparison, it seems to me the image quality is better on the iphone pics, but I admit this is just my subjective point of view.

I could find some numbers to make it all look sciencey, though. In actuality, they are not accurate representations of the scene at all. But, people, in general, prefer images with a yellow color shift.

I prefer the colors to be accurate even if slightly under exposed as I know post editing can get me a near perfect result. You are right and wrong. Yes, the Apple images have a more appealing and consistent temperature, most likely less accurate, but while the Pixel images likely have more accurate and complex depictions of colour temperatures, the tonal mapping is weaker on them.

But more importantly for me, the amount of downright inaccurate and illogical effects processing in the Pixel images make them unusable. There is no way to unmake all the crap baked into hose image.

The tonal balance in the iPhone pictures look better to me. Just look at the indoor exposure test with the Girl in the foreground and the lights in the background. DxO only looked on the preserved highlights in the Background — while the model looks like a Zombie.

In practice I prefer a balanced exposed model, even if there are some blown out highlights in the background. That response goes to show how little you know about photography. Realy true … HTC U11 pic.

The difference in color between the two photos is obvious with the sky and tiles being washed out in the HTC photo. I know, but you get my point. Industry standards or not, nobody can tell which one is more accurate to real life except the eyes that took the photos.

This is plainly obvious on my best equipment and worst equipment. Do you honestly not see the terrible HDR halo-ing in the Pixel sky? Having to go into photoshop and alter a photo is insane — with that amount of work you could easily remove the artifacts.

Infact, the U11 camera is better than the Iphone 8 and Note 8 by far. Yeah in that comparison the HTC 11 blows apart the competition. Here it is 90 x I have to agree the HTC photo looks better in that shot.

The Pixel 2 to me has way too much contrast and saturation. The HTC is a little more naturally contrasted and colored. Worse haloing very random bokeh and focus selection within one shot.

Better than the first Pixel though. Also just for the fun of it, seeing what technology actually is capable of, over actually being a legitimate portrait photography option. My delivery date is Oct At least close enough would be great.

Also, wonder how this camera will perform shooting sports. I also have an XL 2 on the way, but I have no doubts in my mind. The quality comes with sensor size in my views. Even going from my smartphone to a Sony a the quality difference was mind blowing.

Which without an external attachment looks silly on such small phones. Most phones are still pretty far below 1 inch sensors even. Of course you can still get phenomenal shots on a phone.

It amazes me phones can take such good images. More often than not I do have my phone with me though and it can take some exceptional pictures and video. DXOMark on Note 8 review: The Note 8 and Pixel 2 reviews came out very close in time, but yes, ideally it should have mentioned the Note 8 at that point.

Are there figures for dynamic range, video bit rate and depth, and how to compare this to figures for actual cameras, like Red helium? Based on the Images I see in this test, many iPhone Images look better to me.

The model in many of the Pixel Images Looks like a Zombie — muddy skintones, exposure on the background lights, not on the subject. But the Pixel stills scores higher in this sub-categories.

I care that the subject I want to photograph looks good. Also the differences in Portrait mode itself are massive. The Pixel Images look horrible! The bokeh looks totally fake, and there are many false bokeh artifacts on top of this.

In summary, the iPhone Images look more natural and pleasant to me balanced exposure, skintones, colors. I just want to understand how DxO comes to this score. The flaws in the Pixel Images are obvious, but it still gets more Points in these sub-categories.

Well, the Images where the Pixel looks better are all crops from the same studio test scene. The Pixel might have a slight advantage in a technical way. Just take the Image with the chain of lights in the background.

But overall the iPhone Image looks better, more natural. And I think in real life, in this scene no one would care about the highlights in the background. How is the weighting of the sub-categories?

How is it possible that the Pixel gets more points in certain sub-categories, while obvious flaws in the image are visible for everyone? Also agree with the bad masking on the bokeh image and the effect itself.

Good points — though I have one question. How do you know the Pixel is more natural? That could very well be true. Or it could also be too cool, and reality is actually somewhere in between, or the iPhone could be more true to real life.

Used to work in a agency for 3 years where i retouched many portraits. We used a hasselblad and natural light K. The photos we took looked more like the ones from pixel. The ZenFone 4 Max, which focuses on battery life, is speculated to be available in three versions with varying sizes, panel resolutions, chipsets, and possibly battery packs, as well.

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I know which one I would choose! I agree, but I also noticed the pretty women seemed to smile more in the iphone images. Not that it matters, just pointing that out. I first thought that too.

I give the overall bokeh effect award to the iphone for sure, but the color seems off from natural. I prefer to have an image closest to reality, then I can play with filters after if I wish.

I also opened both photos woman sitting in restaurant and enlarged, and noticed there is substantial loss of detail in the iphone picture! Same for her eyebrows, very smeared in the iphone shot.

Her hair too, much more detail in Pixels shot. The exposure is on the model, and the skintones also look more natural. But DxO only counted that the highlights on the background are better preserved in the Pixel Image.

In reality the people want to have a good looking image from the perople they photograph. I think every photo gallery now has filters even Microsoft galleries lol. And for that, more detail is better.

I also would disagree that her skintone is more natural on Apple pic, I think the opposite in fact. Apple is just doing it automatically for you, but forcing one particular filter that they deemed best, you have no choice in the matter, and lose facial details in the process.

It is a shame that the same mistakes were repeated for Miracast, since it on a theoretical plan should have been mirror phone screen to TV, but man did they fuck it up.

When you come to a review about a product review to discuss another product, you are a fan. When you are fan, a true fan, you become biased. The pictures look great. What am I intended to get out of that?

His entire premise is wrong in that DXO is trying to make it look scientific. I see no different between those reviews and this. I still feel my Lumia XL is better than most phones, after having compared the photos on a computer with Galaxy S7, Pixel, etc.

Pixel beats it in low light, but with 20 megapixel, day time photos in it is simply more usable. The Lumia camera module coupled with a modern SOC would be amazing. Especially since I imagine they can shrink it down even further nowadays.

No more excessive lag for the processor to capture and store the image. Still very curious how that camera performed in real world situations. Up to this day i still see reviews popping up with vs modern flagship camera phones.

Soon they will give and for pixle xl 3 phones next year out of If these are not paid reviews why dont you rate LG V30 phone which was released long back and available in market?

LG V30 is having best 1. LG V30 has the biggest aperture, thats good, but for phone camera, I think the software is more important.. Just read the review and look a the comments. Xenon flash rated worse than even poor led setups, photos done in 5MPx mode and zoomed instead of using native resolution or even 8Mpx oversampling.

I get it, is old outdated phone missing many features, video quality is behind modern cameraphones but its photo score is so biased that it even looks funny. OK, I am clearly uneducated here, but how do you get to a score of 99 on photo, when no single subscore is higher than 98?

A few are below That is some higher level math, I guess. It seems some of the sub-scores are weighted somehow. I recommend this dude: I closely examined these sample shots and compared them to the iPhone 8 Plus ones.

I think I can agree that in low light situations, of static scenes, the Pixel 2 does seem to be able to do a better job. Well you see the zoom score also better in iPhone 8 plus But for me the color is more accurate in Pixel 2 XL tbh.

You have to see the object yourself in real life before you can say anything about color accuracy: So you want to say that the model really looks like a Zombie in real life? Because in the Pixel Images she looks like one.

I am just glad in this age of smartphones, all are equally good at photos and videos. Still waiting for a phone that beats my Huawei P9 Plus in texture, noise and artifacts 85, 83, Those are the areas I care for the most.

Try this with a zoom lens: Use a tripod from a fixed distance of say 6 feet. You need to make sure the camera is fixed to avoid tilting it more on one shot than the other.

Take a telephoto shot and then a wide angle. Crop the wide angle on your computer so the field of view matches the telephoto. Aside from it being lower resolution, there will no difference between the two shots.

I believe the reviewer was speaking of the way people think wide angles exaggerate facial features. Now if you try the same thing, but put your subject in the corner of the wide angle frame, you might see some effects of barrel distortion.

DXo seems to find these distortions significant enough to be worth mentioning. They will be more pronounced the closer or more off-center is the subject. You should do the test you mentioned on Pixel 2 when you get it.

I notice barrel distortion on faces with wide angle phone cameras very and I root for optical zoom or even interchangeable lenses on smartphones. I just felt that particular statement in the review was not put in a entirely accurate way.

Probably worth reading this tutorial on volume deformation, which explains quite a bit: You also get somewhat better subject isolation with the latter even without a specialized mode. Those are two of the reasons that slightly longer lenses are favored by portrait photographers using standalone cameras.

Pixel 2 is clearly the best rated camera yet. They specifically mentioned it in the review. Otherwise, I like your sacarsm. I really was hoping for something remarkable from the Pixel 2, however, the Apple and Samsung photos are more pleasing in many ways.

I appreciate this site overall, but this review is not close to useful. The score, no matter how justified, is misleading. The Pixel images here are not impressive.

When you use weighted scoring techniques for e. Look at that tree picture. But, DXO says that the P2 has amazing detail preservation in light and dark shadows? Good luck finding any detail to bring out from that tree and trying to get rid of those intense blacks inside of it.

I am happy that my Pixel phone camera is still a great camera. That is quite impressive. But damnit, That first picture of the tree is hideous. It just seems way off on too many important things.

But to their credit, they do bring up good points about other things. I had the exact same impression on that photo htc 11 vs pixel 2 and i agree with you that the score seems to be a bit too high.

They saying the pixel has less noise than the last pixel but in my opinion it looks that it as or the same or even more. I agree that the HTC photo there does look better than the pixel 2, not sure whats up there.

Seems like the contrast was up to much on that scene. The pixel 2 though does have more detail than pretty much all the Iphone 8 photos in this review. As a photographer myself, Its easier to take a high detail photo, and convert it to what apple has as default in post processing if thats what you want, than it is to go the other way around.

Apple chooses to have softer more pleasing images at the expense of the detail. The real world pixel photos, have cool white balance and nasty bokeh. David had a shit body. Shorter legs and less reach.

Athleticism was on average with other men. Only difference was his brain. Transplant his brain and Goliath would definitely have beaten this crap guy in a fight.

The test results are very intransparent for people who just want to have a quick look about the camera test. You will se a 99 overall rating and think that the camera ist just perfect.

I would like to see more systematic real-life test shots. Perhaps include a chart of some sort behind the person being photographed, for the shots to be more apples-to-apples.

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At 60fps its super wide angle where stabilization is less needed. And who makes the Pixel 2. LGV30 is the better phone. I have FHD 60fps as an option for my video size.

Would send you a screen print but check yours. Even standard HD 60fps video is just starting to look decent on high-end devices. We try and test as many phones as possible with our new protocol, please stay tuned!

Colors, bokeh, noise, lens almost everything looks better in the iphone photos, so the final score is surprising! The pixel 2 seems overrated to me, it has a lot of flaws the pictures are over processed, colors are better on the iphone, noise is visible in dark conditions, lens is bad for portraits, effects that do not work, I think it is overrated in this review and does not deserve the high 98 score.

I think this is partially true. The parallax effect of a wide angle lens when you get really close to the subject and the nose looks big is NOT going to appear with digital zoom.

That is my assumption. This is fake dude: This is not proof at all: From where some extremely unknown guy has pixel 2? There are many fast moving objects — the lights, the performer, etc.

They are even from the very exact point of view: For years Android fans kept complaining about them when they where giving iPhone cameras high marks, now i guess the tables have turned.

I will not be putting my fate in some random Youtube guy if i where you. Oh and Samsung hired a lot of Nokia guys when Nokia was sold to Microsoft. They basically have an office across the street in Finland and ever since then they have been doing well on cameras.

Drowned in Apple-Hate much? It seems it needs to be clarified since such comments are solving the actual issue here and are very productive. In fact, I have never owned any version of any iPhone.

Apple chose to boost the contrast and clean up more noise in their image processing. That cost them some fine detail, but increased the apparent sharpness. Google not surprisingly made the geekier choice.

Pixel 2 easily best phone camera of all time. Powerful Android 8 operating system. OS updates from Google. Considerably cheaper than the iPhone X. Looks like we have a new phone champion here.

Lol ok buddy calm down.. Get your hands on a LG V30 then talk! The Bokeh example in this article is a nightmare. Bokeh is not just some random blur areas. It has some logic.

I know this is not most important thing in the world, but they put stress on what great dual-pixel abilities their single camera has, and dxomark has seperate score just for this. In theory, it gives the Pixel2 depth info for every single pixel on the sensor.

On the web there are demos of producing 3d models from dual pixel sensor data. And, no one has had a chance to try this yet, but it probably tracks focus better than any other camera for video with a moving subject.

Look at the hair, for example, in the Note 8 shot. Just a big black area. A manufacturer would just jack up the noise reduction to get a better rating and throw away perfectly good pixels!

In my opinion Some photo examples of Pixel 2 looks unnatural. Like second and third image. Was the test conducted on both the Pixel 2 and the Pixel 2 XL? It should be the same specs all around.

The Pixel 2 does appear to maintain a bit better detail, likely due to less post-processing. It seems Apple have adopted the Samsung approach of sharpening images and such.

The Nexus 6p captures sharper detail than the Note 8. The Note 8 only looks nice when zoomed out because of the saturated colors and oversharpening. HDR is on by default.

Thanks for the response! I tried it in the store against the iPhone 8 and it was fantastic screen. Like you I am looking to use it for productivity enhancement for a few years.

On paper, OIS is a good thing, so if it can take good pictures, I will be happy. How much did Apple pay DxO. Pixel 2 rated Its DxO and they test in the most professional way.

But not even a mention about it.. Nice cherry picking of comments there. It would be disappointing to find out if it scores at or better than the Pixel 2 because it would seem as though DXOmark would be working with Google on building it up.

EVEN let people infer it. This is all really getting into wine snob type of behavior.. I just want to hear about 4K 30fps — is okay to record at all the time? Should I just record at p 60fps?

Only use 4K 30 fps if you have a screen that can display it, eg. The drawback is that it is only recording at 30 fps so scenes with lots of motion will have motion blur and may look worse than the 60 fps one.

However, this is just my opinion and other people might say differently. But 60fps is so pleasing to eyes. Our test scores go from 0 to infinity. I am forced to strongly disagree with the extremely over-rated numbers on the Pixel 2.

While it does do some things better than other phones, its drawbacks give the other phones the advantage in many common photo scenarios; even the reviewer acknowledged this. I think to a lot of people, absolute picture quality is most important.

What is important, is to look at the axis, dynamic range, noise and accuracy in seperate plots over light range and gain. The other thing is pixel format, bit depth and accuracy at different datarates.

At the moment a lot is rubbish, but to compete these things have to increase. These things will quickly show you things before you worry about bells and whistles that help you shoot. To get better accuracy, and to see around features more, needs more than a single little lens, it needs IMAX larger medium format spacing, and more than two lens.

Bokeh is shaped from many axises. How are you even rating these pics.. The HTC U11 pic has better detail and colour balance than the Pixel 2 in the comparison you posted above.

The Pixel 2 image is way too dark and contrasty, though it captures more details in the dark parts of the scene. And actually, in most of the pics from the iPhone8-Pixel2 comparison, it seems to me the image quality is better on the iphone pics, but I admit this is just my subjective point of view.

But more importantly for me, the amount of downright inaccurate and illogical effects processing in the Pixel images make them unusable. There is no way to unmake all the crap baked into hose image.

In practice I prefer a balanced exposed model, even if there are some blown out highlights in the background. That response goes to show how little you know about photography.

Realy true … HTC U11 pic. The difference in color between the two photos is obvious with the sky and tiles being washed out in the HTC photo. I know, but you get my point. Industry standards or not, nobody can tell which one is more accurate to real life except the eyes that took the photos.

The Pixel 2 to me has way too much contrast and saturation. The HTC is a little more naturally contrasted and colored. Worse haloing very random bokeh and focus selection within one shot. Better than the first Pixel though.

Also just for the fun of it, seeing what technology actually is capable of, over actually being a legitimate portrait photography option. My delivery date is Oct At least close enough would be great.

Which without an external attachment looks silly on such small phones. Most phones are still pretty far below 1 inch sensors even. Of course you can still get phenomenal shots on a phone.

The model in many of the Pixel Images Looks like a Zombie — muddy skintones, exposure on the background lights, not on the subject. But the Pixel stills scores higher in this sub-categories.

But overall the iPhone Image looks better, more natural. And I think in real life, in this scene no one would care about the highlights in the background.

How is the weighting of the sub-categories? How is it possible that the Pixel gets more points in certain sub-categories, while obvious flaws in the image are visible for everyone?

Also agree with the bad masking on the bokeh image and the effect itself. Good points — though I have one question. How do you know the Pixel is more natural? That could very well be true. Or it could also be too cool, and reality is actually somewhere in between, or the iPhone could be more true to real life.

Used to work in a agency for 3 years where i retouched many portraits. We used a hasselblad and natural light K. The photos we took looked more like the ones from pixel. We removed all impurities and add a more wamth color to the skin like the iphone.

But, you can easily add this effect afterwards to the photos from pixel. You will see photos with the same results. Iphone have more warm colors in its photos. And I can say that almost none of the images I take come out with such a weird and flat look skintone like the ones from the pixel.

It may be, that you created this look on purpose, to have the best control for post processing. And of course I know that you have full control on everything when you shoot raw. But be honest to yourself: I just tried to explain why dxo choosed the rating.

I prefer the portraits on iphone also. Agree, but its difficult to measure pleasant looking photo as its subjective. Instead they measure the camera capability to reproduce the subject as it is.

Looking at the photo with the coloured back-lights for example, although iPhone shot looks definitely more pleasing for me, its not possible the face can have those tones under those lighting conditions blue and purple lighting Pixel therefore gives more real results.

Then its up to you to decide what you prefer and just go with it. Leonel Messi struggles with his right foot while shooting and header because of his height, not to mention how bad he is at penaly.

Do you think he does a bad job at playing? Other are just bland in comparison. Sure, if you enjoy higher noise and lower detail, and a darker image especially in low light just look at last 5 lux photo and poorer dynamic range in high light.

Most of the iPhone shots are much sharper and brighter through most testing. I want the Pixel 2 to win and be the best. But this review is smurphed! The Portrait mode in that last example is horrible on the pixel.

The background becomes more in focus to the left the further away the background. As unnatural as it can be. And the fact it has only one lens doing the job which most phones do using two lenses.

Did you try both Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL? Is like having 2 laptops with the same CPU made by Intel, even if thelaptops are made by 2 different companies, the cpu is the same and the cpu performance is the same.

Thank you for the suggestion. Like other media outlets we do sometimes get access to an early test sample before the device is commercially available. On those occasions we are in a position to do test before the mobile launch and to publish a review and scoring right at launch.

Those who are failing to understand the rating process, the criteria on which the ratings are given, please read the article once again. They clearly explained everything somewhat elaborately.

This is not a post to give you a lesson on these things. The only two things the Pixel 2 is bad at compared to iPhone 8 are retaining details in zoom and creating bokeh effect in portrait mode which DxoMark has clearly stated in the post.

It has nothing to do with misunderstanding the ratings. DXOMark praises kitsch colours… then ignores awful and inconsistent skin tones, which are pallid indoors and red outside.

DXOMark praises the details of a background light fixture… and ignores appalling lens distortion. DXOMark praises low light performance… achieved at the expense of over-processing and flattening.

DXOMark totally ignores wide angle lens distortion and its deleterious effect on composition and faces. There is a reason why 70 to mm fixed focal length lenses are known as portrait lenses.

DXOMark knows all this stuff and is choosing to ignore it so that it can bait for clicks with an incompetent populist viewpoint on an enthusiast site. In my eyes, both look pretty much the same.

I agree with you about the lens distortion with a single wide angle camera setup. Having an extra telephoto lens would have been great for portraiture. Only the things that matter most are discussed here.

What do you think they take test images for? Have a look at their protocol here and guess what, they take distortion into account — https: Reducing noise will decrease the sharpness as well as details like you see in the iPhone 8.

No one will notice the noise anyway if you upload it in Facebook, Instagram or any other social media platform since they degrade the image quality even further. Better leave it optional for the pixel peepers.

Noise reduced with apps will have loss in quality since it is working on post-processed and compressed jpeg file while Pixel AI reduces noise in-camera when the file is still in RAW format so there is no loss in quality.

And yes, on social media after being compressed almost all top 5 camera smartphones will look kinda same. But the noise is acceptable to me at this point. If Google can reduce noise without compromising the overall quality, that would be even better.

Moreover, they should have provided functionality for saving RAW photos within the stock camera app. Anyway, photos uploaded on the social media are mainly affected in terms of loss of fine detail and hence the appearance of reduced noise.

But the color rendering, dynamic range etc remain distinguishable from phone to phone. I would feel better if they were bought through normal consumer channels. And no reference camera is used.

The cameras on my LG V20 work just fine. But, all the reviewers were complaining they were given factory seconds to test. Even the default settings on my V20 were different from one of the reviewers.

Here we see a woman with a flattened face, big nose and the background thrown way back because Google has used a super-wideangle lens to increase the size of the sensor while doing away with the lens bump in a very narrow phone.

The compromise is glaringly obvious. The lens must be effectively 24mm. Yet, DXOMark looks past the rather alien looking distortions of the subject and says: Added to that we see flattened, over processed results time and again, and inconsistent colours: If the Pixel 2 had a much-wider angle lens than the iPhone 8 Plus, in order to have the model appear larger, the image would have had to have been shot much closer and the way the lights on the wire behind her head appeared would have been very different with the lights nearest her head disappearing entirely.

The iPhone 8 plus has a dual lens set up. The zoom lens is clearly a different focal length than any single lens phone. Just look up the effective focal length of each lens.

The distortion is governed by physics. In each Google pixel photo you will see that the subject appears either closer or further away than in the iPhone pictures. If the subject is a close one, as in the disco lighting shot, it appears larger and more distorted.

If it is further away, as in the park bench shot, it appears further way. The Google Pixel has no camera bump. How is that possible? Light travels in straight lines for Google, too. A wider angel lens has been used.

Google seems shy of admitting to the fact but it you search around you find sites suggesting that the iPhone is effectively 28mm and 56mm, while the Pixel is 24mm.

The Z-height depth of the camera module is affected by more than the focal length of the lens. There is an entire stack of components that go into it, and of course sensor size affects it as well, since it changes the effective focal length for a given actual focal length.

So existence or lack of a bump is no guarantee of different focal lengths. Any idea of when the LG V30 will be reviewed? As usually it would not get a high score here, but would be a much better camera than any that got paid for being better.

Nobody got paid for being better. If you think there is a conspiracy ask why certain phones never appeared here. Look at the results!!! Why did pixel 2 got best place?

Where iPhone clearly won — it is stated that pixel won, why????? I suggest to buy a cheap phone right now cuz there is a lot of competition and all of the tech giants have their own flaws.

By next year, the decision will be much easier. Im not sure how the pixel comes in with such a high video score compared to the HTC U11 that uses the same sensor.

I havent tested the pixel so maybe there is some improved software but still seems like a huge bump in scores. I hope its true since I have a pixel 2 coming in the mail soon. One of the issues I have with all this fancy software jazz is that its inherently tied to the google app.

The strides google has made with software is amazing but your inherently tied to that app and in a sense gimped by the auto settings that google gives you. If you really want to flex the pixels muscles and shoot RAW or switch to a manual video camera app then your just kinda screwed right?

What about filmic pro for video? Luckily the U11 with the takes some amazing shots without all the fancy software which proves the sensor is good but I dont like google relying too much on software without giving us more manual controls.

Id be fine if they gave us manual modes like in the galaxy and V30 phones and the ability to shoot 4k at mbps rates with manual controls and a flat profile. You can do a version of that if the subject is stable, via bracketing, or multi-exposure, but there are few multi-frame RAW solutions.

Although the sensor is smaller, it now features OIS for significantly better exposures and combined with EIS delivers amazingly stabilized footage. That sounds pretty cool.

After reading your initial mail I looked around and also found this: Not sure if it is the same project or different, but seems to be a backport of the Pixel XL camera app to more generic devices. Read up on Xda to get it working on your phone.

Well maybe you just need the right settings. It takes a while to process but taking a photo is instant if you have ZSL enabled. Found the 85 page thread for the OP 5. Thanks again for the pointer.

No problem, just glad another person could make better use of their camera. The Google Pixel 2 camera is one of the worst cameras because of the software processing. You can clearly see the poor quality of the Depth effect shots though.

One aspect of the camera to disqualify it completely regardless of the rest …. It was deemed garbage because of a DR issue that was marginal, and the reviewers really trashed that otherwise excellent camera for one issue.

Or are you saying that that immediately banishes it from any other tests? Because of these issues, especially the random hit and miss bokeh effects I really think that this camera got an overestimated rating.

Err why have they reduced it from to 98 without an explanation, this is looking more and more of a con. Do you see the Camera review on this site for those phones? All except LGV30 has been tested with our old protocol.

Please use the research tool in top right of our new website: Just for example https: Especially V30 on video. I would like to know what the score is with the highest score at each test item based on test protocol.

It would be grateful to have the answer. I like that he encourages people to dive in past the overall number and look at the sub-scores to see which ones are most relevant to them.

What Dxo needs to do is allow different phones to be compared, that was never possible and still is not. Now they are changing the scoring system which means direct comparisons are no longer possible between old and new.

DXOMark I want to like you. The image was much sharper than the Pixel 2, the Face was a brighter exposure but the sky was darker and had more detail. But I downloaded them for a closer look.

There is no exif data for the iPhone file! And the iPhone file is KB? What are you trying to pull here, DXO? That is simply for viewing convenience, and not something that affects the testing or scoring process.

How on earth can you forget the LG V30!? One of the best if not the best smartphone camera of! Can someone explain to me how the photo score ended up with a 99 when the average of all the sub scores is But even then, the actual number itself is meaningless without some kind of reference to compare it to.

Some of these handsets will be featuring versions with different hardware configurations as well, such as the ZenFone 4 and the ZenFone 4 Max. The base ZenFone 4 phone is tipped to come in two flavors — a Qualcomm Snapdragon version and a more expensive but more powerful Qualcomm Snapdragon version.

The ZenFone 4 Max, which focuses on battery life, is speculated to be available in three versions with varying sizes, panel resolutions, chipsets, and possibly battery packs, as well.